for joining us. >> thank you. >> jamie: what is on the table actually for the u.s.? >> well, we could, declare a no-fly zone but that is complicated, because, while the u.s. has aircraft, in all the nate tows countries, italy and britain and germany we cannot use this aircraft unless we have permission from the host country and that is not likely to come. they've already said they will not give permission unless the u.n. or nato-wide agrees to that and that will not happen. >> jamie: going it alone -- >> we'd be in it alone and, a no fly zone is not just to say, nobody fly over lybia, what a no-fly zone would require is that u.s. aircraft, probably based on carriers, would go in to lybia and would bomb lybia and bomb the air defense system of lybia and fly 24/7 over lybia and that is a major commitment. and, also sets the precedent, what about the next revolution that you will see? because you will see more of these. and, so, the question is, could we do it? yes, we could but it is at a great cost and secondly, joe, jamie is the question, should we? now, right now, so far the libyan rebels are